Comments on: TIFF Pretense http://mylittlenorway.com/2010/01/tiff-pretense/ discover the kingdom of the North Wed, 23 May 2012 18:38:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Maria http://mylittlenorway.com/2010/01/tiff-pretense/comment-page-1/#comment-1388 Maria Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:34:06 +0000 http://mylittlenorway.com/?p=6727#comment-1388 You are only too right - it's a shame they couldn't get even the most basic things right. One should think they'd at least be able to abide by normal safety guidelines, but the whole thing was a mess. And we both know that the hair & makeup was just as bad ;) At least we danced well and had a lot of fun! When it comes to production works I have to say I've only known a few people in Norway who can actually do this properly. The dance teacher from my home town was fortunately one of them, which means I got "spoiled" as a kid and is now insanely irritated when should-be professionals can't do their job. The gig I played yesterday with my band was a perfect example: there didn't seem to be one person who knew everything about the whole show. We'd been told by my school's producer we'd have to bring our own backline, but of course Driv has great equipment they wanted to use, so Ailo at had to call all the bands to find out what we needed. The transportation of instruments and people from our school to Driv was a disaster (I ended up having to pay for one of the taxis myself, although I've been told they'll refund me the money), they hadn't provided any food or drink for the bands (even though we'd have to be there for eight hours), and there were a lot of different messages being passed around through various people. A mess, I tell you! At least the show itself was incredibly fun, I'm still rather exhausted. Your website is really nice, by the way :) ____________________ <em><strong>from L-Jay:</strong> I think one of the problems is that there is no real training for Events Management or Stage Management in Norway (you have to go to Denmark to get it). They have one school in Oslo, NISS, but the training isn't hardcore. I was lucky enough to have top notch stage management courses in my state in Oz - it was the best intense course to the world of theatre ever! Sometimes I just want to jump into the work here in Norway but it is very hard working with people who have no clue what theatre/stage management is all about. Dealing with Driv is crazy too...lol. I'm hearing ya about how everyone only knows a little of what is going on. I think they should at least be a stage management course at Høgskolen to cater for/service the music students ;)</em> You are only too right – it’s a shame they couldn’t get even the most basic things right. One should think they’d at least be able to abide by normal safety guidelines, but the whole thing was a mess. And we both know that the hair & makeup was just as bad ;) At least we danced well and had a lot of fun!

When it comes to production works I have to say I’ve only known a few people in Norway who can actually do this properly. The dance teacher from my home town was fortunately one of them, which means I got “spoiled” as a kid and is now insanely irritated when should-be professionals can’t do their job.

The gig I played yesterday with my band was a perfect example: there didn’t seem to be one person who knew everything about the whole show. We’d been told by my school’s producer we’d have to bring our own backline, but of course Driv has great equipment they wanted to use, so Ailo at had to call all the bands to find out what we needed. The transportation of instruments and people from our school to Driv was a disaster (I ended up having to pay for one of the taxis myself, although I’ve been told they’ll refund me the money), they hadn’t provided any food or drink for the bands (even though we’d have to be there for eight hours), and there were a lot of different messages being passed around through various people. A mess, I tell you! At least the show itself was incredibly fun, I’m still rather exhausted.

Your website is really nice, by the way :)

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from L-Jay:

I think one of the problems is that there is no real training for Events Management or Stage Management in Norway (you have to go to Denmark to get it). They have one school in Oslo, NISS, but the training isn’t hardcore. I was lucky enough to have top notch stage management courses in my state in Oz – it was the best intense course to the world of theatre ever!

Sometimes I just want to jump into the work here in Norway but it is very hard working with people who have no clue what theatre/stage management is all about. Dealing with Driv is crazy too…lol. I’m hearing ya about how everyone only knows a little of what is going on. I think they should at least be a stage management course at Høgskolen to cater for/service the music students ;)

]]> By: Sue C. http://mylittlenorway.com/2010/01/tiff-pretense/comment-page-1/#comment-1355 Sue C. Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:10:47 +0000 http://mylittlenorway.com/?p=6727#comment-1355 Am glad the performance turned out alright even though the night sounded really hectic. Well, L-Jay maybe you will 'revolutionise' the theatre industry in Norway one performance at a time =] Am glad the performance turned out alright even though the night sounded really hectic.

Well, L-Jay maybe you will ‘revolutionise’ the theatre industry in Norway one performance at a time =]

]]> By: Sophie http://mylittlenorway.com/2010/01/tiff-pretense/comment-page-1/#comment-1339 Sophie Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:25:02 +0000 http://mylittlenorway.com/?p=6727#comment-1339 Oh, and forgot to say: fabulous outifts!! Real glam, just wish there were more opportunities in life to dress up like that :) Oh, and forgot to say: fabulous outifts!! Real glam, just wish there were more opportunities in life to dress up like that :)

]]> By: Sophie http://mylittlenorway.com/2010/01/tiff-pretense/comment-page-1/#comment-1338 Sophie Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:23:38 +0000 http://mylittlenorway.com/?p=6727#comment-1338 I'm so sorry to hear about that whole chaos of a night :( but you did the right thing with putting on the best show you possibly could, very professional and shows your real passion for what you do! Really do hope they rectify saying the wrong group in a proper way so you get the recognition you deserve... I’m so sorry to hear about that whole chaos of a night :( but you did the right thing with putting on the best show you possibly could, very professional and shows your real passion for what you do! Really do hope they rectify saying the wrong group in a proper way so you get the recognition you deserve…

]]> By: S http://mylittlenorway.com/2010/01/tiff-pretense/comment-page-1/#comment-1336 S Thu, 21 Jan 2010 02:25:57 +0000 http://mylittlenorway.com/?p=6727#comment-1336 I loved reading your analysis! What chaos! But what a great article it made. And what potential that you should be in Norway with such talent. Are you interested in working the contacts you have there? I wonder if the stage manager, promises or not, would write you a recommendation. If she's established in the community, I'd think that's always a foot in the door. There is so much you could do ~ I imagine you could really help Norway - or just your community-, with all it's wonderful culture and history, by helping them translate their stories into more enjoyable and fluid forms. Best of luck! _____________________ <em><strong>from L-Jay:</strong> I do work in the industry here but only as a freelancer so I can pick and choose work. I'm lucky to have the luxury of choosing who I want to work with. :D Also, I've just had two babies so even though I've been receiving offers of work I'm choosing to stay at home. There is a festival coming up that I work on every year and I always take on a work experience student - it's an opportunity for them to see how a festival is managed (or supposed to be managed...lol). Actually, one thing I'm very weary of with work in Norway is to 'come in and take over'. It can be easy to do - doing everything my way - but then that means I'm not learning about or appreciating the Norwegian way. I find it is best to work with the system - but do it better ;) I must admit, I have been standing in the back ground just watching the industry. In a couple of years I will go in to full-time work and I will be much wiser to which arts companies I will want to work with. It's the same of what I did with the dance industry here. I made friends with everyone but also stayed aloof. I watched the studios - how operated, how they associated with each other, I learnt about histories and about their different 'professionalisms' so I could work out the best way I can build a better dance business here but most importantly, so I would seem less of a threat to the other dance businesses. I guess its just market research really to keep up good relations. ;) Long reply... this could almost be a post! Cheers ;) </em> I loved reading your analysis! What chaos! But what a great article it made. And what potential that you should be in Norway with such talent.

Are you interested in working the contacts you have there? I wonder if the stage manager, promises or not, would write you a recommendation. If she’s established in the community, I’d think that’s always a foot in the door.

There is so much you could do ~ I imagine you could really help Norway – or just your community-, with all it’s wonderful culture and history, by helping them translate their stories into more enjoyable and fluid forms.
Best of luck!

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from L-Jay:

I do work in the industry here but only as a freelancer so I can pick and choose work. I’m lucky to have the luxury of choosing who I want to work with. :D Also, I’ve just had two babies so even though I’ve been receiving offers of work I’m choosing to stay at home. There is a festival coming up that I work on every year and I always take on a work experience student – it’s an opportunity for them to see how a festival is managed (or supposed to be managed…lol).

Actually, one thing I’m very weary of with work in Norway is to ‘come in and take over’. It can be easy to do – doing everything my way – but then that means I’m not learning about or appreciating the Norwegian way. I find it is best to work with the system – but do it better ;)

I must admit, I have been standing in the back ground just watching the industry. In a couple of years I will go in to full-time work and I will be much wiser to which arts companies I will want to work with. It’s the same of what I did with the dance industry here. I made friends with everyone but also stayed aloof. I watched the studios – how operated, how they associated with each other, I learnt about histories and about their different ‘professionalisms’ so I could work out the best way I can build a better dance business here but most importantly, so I would seem less of a threat to the other dance businesses. I guess its just market research really to keep up good relations. ;)

Long reply… this could almost be a post!
Cheers ;)

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